Idioms Explained
Viewing comments for Chapter 13 "Pardon My F#(kin& French"Fanstorians explain the backstory of idioms
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Comment from T B Botts
Hello Liz,
Almost every time I log on here, I learn something new. Maybe I've always been an ignorant buffoon and didn't realize it until now. It's humbling, but also exciting. The challenge now is to remember what I've learned. As for swearing in public, it shows how far down moral ladder we've allowed ourselves to go. I'm no prude, but my word I hate to hear F this and F that. At one time that word was saved for the most egregious situation. Now it's common as candy, and our young generation thinks it's acceptable. God forgive us. Thanks for sharing gal. Rest well.
Tom
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reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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Hello Liz,
Almost every time I log on here, I learn something new. Maybe I've always been an ignorant buffoon and didn't realize it until now. It's humbling, but also exciting. The challenge now is to remember what I've learned. As for swearing in public, it shows how far down moral ladder we've allowed ourselves to go. I'm no prude, but my word I hate to hear F this and F that. At one time that word was saved for the most egregious situation. Now it's common as candy, and our young generation thinks it's acceptable. God forgive us. Thanks for sharing gal. Rest well.
Tom
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Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one!
Comment from judiverse
I never looked at it that way. I always thought the meaning was clear, and the person who used it was saying excuse the profanity. I never thought it was intended to indicate that the listener would be unaware of meaning of the swear words used. We have to be ever so cautious these days. In conclusion I'll just say "Let's Go Brandon."
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I never looked at it that way. I always thought the meaning was clear, and the person who used it was saying excuse the profanity. I never thought it was intended to indicate that the listener would be unaware of meaning of the swear words used. We have to be ever so cautious these days. In conclusion I'll just say "Let's Go Brandon."
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
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I always thought Pardon my French was asking to excuse the profanity. Strange that there is confusion about the expression. judi
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Yes, that is what it means these days --I just enjoyed a bit of digging into how it's evolved since its origin.
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It's been interesting to learn about the origins of some of these idioms. judi
Comment from barbara.wilkey
One of my son's, Andrew and his wife, Katie when to France for their honeymoon. The sidewalks were incredibly crowded and Andrew accidentally bumped into a man. Although in France, people will pretend they don't speak a word or understand any English. But this man could swear perfect English to Andrew as Andrew attempted to apologize. LOL
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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One of my son's, Andrew and his wife, Katie when to France for their honeymoon. The sidewalks were incredibly crowded and Andrew accidentally bumped into a man. Although in France, people will pretend they don't speak a word or understand any English. But this man could swear perfect English to Andrew as Andrew attempted to apologize. LOL
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
Post you story!
Comment from Mary Vigasin
In the 1970s and 1980s anyone saying an f-word would be met with jaw drops and "pardon my French." Even though the offense was made, the offender would think that being pardoned by his use of "French" was acceptable but not accepted by the listener.
Now the f-word is so common, the apology in French is less often used but when it is used to ask forgiveness, the apology is now accepted.
Best wishes,
Mary
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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In the 1970s and 1980s anyone saying an f-word would be met with jaw drops and "pardon my French." Even though the offense was made, the offender would think that being pardoned by his use of "French" was acceptable but not accepted by the listener.
Now the f-word is so common, the apology in French is less often used but when it is used to ask forgiveness, the apology is now accepted.
Best wishes,
Mary
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
Comment from Ric Myworld
Growing up around the racetrack and exposed to all types of people and all kinds of foul language, I had a terrible potty mouth, starting around the age of three. But as I've gotten older and have to listen to such talk everywhere I go, and from young, old, educated, and ignorant. F-words used in every sentence. I've become more conscious not to curse, refusing to sound like the disrespectful, degenerate, reprobates. Now I'm just a debauchee, used in French or English with different emphasis. LOL. Thanks for sharing. And sorry for the novella.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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Growing up around the racetrack and exposed to all types of people and all kinds of foul language, I had a terrible potty mouth, starting around the age of three. But as I've gotten older and have to listen to such talk everywhere I go, and from young, old, educated, and ignorant. F-words used in every sentence. I've become more conscious not to curse, refusing to sound like the disrespectful, degenerate, reprobates. Now I'm just a debauchee, used in French or English with different emphasis. LOL. Thanks for sharing. And sorry for the novella.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
Comment from Judy Lawless
This is a good one, Liz. I always wondered how that came about. I'm glad you are one of our resident researchers and have solved the problem for us, but I agree the French would not be fooled. Lol
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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This is a good one, Liz. I always wondered how that came about. I'm glad you are one of our resident researchers and have solved the problem for us, but I agree the French would not be fooled. Lol
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
Comment from BethShelby
I see you are adding another chapter. These are fun and I'm tempted to add another one as well. I've heard the expression about Pardon my French started in World War I. The British and American soldiers considered the French to be rude and risqué so swearing was considered a French thing.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I see you are adding another chapter. These are fun and I'm tempted to add another one as well. I've heard the expression about Pardon my French started in World War I. The British and American soldiers considered the French to be rude and risqué so swearing was considered a French thing.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning I wrote about came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on.
Comment from Jumbo J
Hi Liz,
Idioms, and more idioms... you have quite a few to refer to, so this could go on forever?
Yes, 'Pardon my French' is heard more than often when one believes they are excusing themselves for being lazy in their attempt at speech, as if?
I know I'm going to enjoy your take and research on this topic and chapters.
With our thoughts we create...
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Kind regards,
James.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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Hi Liz,
Idioms, and more idioms... you have quite a few to refer to, so this could go on forever?
Yes, 'Pardon my French' is heard more than often when one believes they are excusing themselves for being lazy in their attempt at speech, as if?
I know I'm going to enjoy your take and research on this topic and chapters.
With our thoughts we create...
descriptive dialogue.
Kind regards,
James.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning I wrote about came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on. HIgh time for the French to turn the tables!
Comment from Monica Chaddick
I would imagine that the French probably do get offended by this - unless of course they say pardon my English - lol. I say just spout what you must and don't apologize for it at all.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I would imagine that the French probably do get offended by this - unless of course they say pardon my English - lol. I say just spout what you must and don't apologize for it at all.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning I wrote about came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on. HIgh time for the French to turn the tables!
Comment from lyenochka
Lol! That is a good idiom to write about! I'm so glad that you did. I remember a while back we talked about doing something like this - the origins of sayings. Yes, it doesn't make sense at all. And come to think of it, didn't Bugs Bunny say things like "sacre bleu" and we thought it was funny but apparently, it really is bad in French, according to a gal I asked.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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Lol! That is a good idiom to write about! I'm so glad that you did. I remember a while back we talked about doing something like this - the origins of sayings. Yes, it doesn't make sense at all. And come to think of it, didn't Bugs Bunny say things like "sacre bleu" and we thought it was funny but apparently, it really is bad in French, according to a gal I asked.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2021
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2021
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I had fun with this one! The research indicates this meaning I wrote about came later--I thought it would be the most amusing to focus on. HIgh time for the French to turn the tables!